This forum needs a limit to how many quoted quotes people can add to a post before it'll be refused. Srsly, you don't need to quote entire conversations.
The only problem the casual player has with Street Fighter III 3rd Strike, or even Street Fighter III in general, is that 90% of the characters are brand new.
Think about it, nobody's ever really played the first SF (kind of a lie, but it's more obscure than the others) so it didn't matter that SF II got a new roster of characters, but every casual player has played the SF II and SFA games and knows all of those characters, and then they play SF III and are turned off because of the amount of new characters. The casual player doesn't wanna learn every movement of every character, he just wants to get in a fight and win, and in a game like Street Fighter you won't get past the fourth fight in Arcade Mode without mastering that character.
Thats why I think Capcom is reluctant to give SFIII a re-release, because other than Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, and Akuma (I might be missing a few, probably not, but it's been a while) none of the characters are all that familiar.
But who knows, as I said before, when the vibrating chairs break, we may get our game.
But after all this time you would think that people are familiar with SFIII, right my friend?
No not really my friend. LOL I sitll have some friends that don't even know how to play Dudley, Yang, Yun, and other 3rd strike characters. LOL They still play Ryu, Ken, and Akuma. LOLLL So sad at times. LOL that's why 3rd Strike MUST BE ON PLAYSTATION 3 across the globe with online play that the best of all online fighting games. ;D
The main reason SFIII failed is because it was released during the fall of the arcade age. Not having a home console version didn't help. Sure, it was on Dreamcast, but that system was on it's way out before it even got properly settled, thanks in no small part to the PlayStation 2.
IMO, the characters are a fairly distant third to these two issues.
You do have a solid point there, I didn't even think of that
It doesn't need new art. Just toss in the filters from MVC2 and HD Remix's online and you're good.
So... GGPO or 2DF, basically? Those already exist.
They do, but not that many people play those, and the majority of those that do are already experienced players. A re-release on XBLA and PSN has the potential to bring in hundreds of thousands of new players.
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike isn't anywhere near as popular (in general, not in fan circles) and the animations are far, FAR more fluid (meaning considerably more effort is needed to redo them). It also has more characters than Super Turbo. It would be far more work for them to remake the game in HD, and the return wouldn't be nearly as high as it was for the HD Remix they've already made.
Right. Most popular Street Fighter + low frames = profit. Least popular Street Fighter + High frames = big loss, and sfiii's death. It would make no sense for them to do this. Also think about TvC, MvC2, sfiv, and sfii HD Remix being out in the same climate. Everyone has their Street Fighter fill for the moment, to release sfiii again now would be a very stupid idea.
Are you blind? I take it you haven't look at the SF IV gudie booklet. If you did your SF homework you notice that SF 3 Third Strike holds the record of having most tournaments then any other SF game in the series. Plus the most funniest to play out of the whole series. SF3 also have the BEST gameplay then all of the SF games combine.
How in any way does that make it profitable to Capcom? Casual players outnumber Hardcore 1000 to 1. I should also note that sfii got ridiculous sales and was ported to every console out at the time. Alpha3 got 1 million copies and was ported to the PSP and GBA, etc. But what did sfiii get ported to? It had one copy on the Ps2, and at that only sold like 1000 copies when it was out on the Dreamcast. Tournaments don't hold much to actual sales, maybe you should do your homework.
By the way, none of this distracts from the fact that sfiii has an inordinate amount of frames to redraw and would cost tons more than sfii to make...you know, the one that everyone actually knows. Most people hadn't played a sf since sfii and were wondering why this was sfiv, because they didn't know a sfiii even existed. Your affection for sfiii is just an opinion and holds no force on sales.
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike isn't anywhere near as popular (in general, not in fan circles) and the animations are far, FAR more fluid (meaning considerably more effort is needed to redo them). It also has more characters than Super Turbo. It would be far more work for them to remake the game in HD, and the return wouldn't be nearly as high as it was for the HD Remix they've already made.
Right. Most popular Street Fighter + low frames = profit. Least popular Street Fighter + High frames = big loss, and sfiii's death. It would make no sense for them to do this. Also think about TvC, MvC2, sfiv, and sfii HD Remix being out in the same climate. Everyone has their Street Fighter fill for the moment, to release sfiii again now would be a very stupid idea.
Are you blind? I take it you haven't look at the SF IV gudie booklet. If you did your SF homework you notice that SF 3 Third Strike holds the record of having most tournaments then any other SF game in the series. Plus the most funniest to play out of the whole series. SF3 also have the BEST gameplay then all of the SF games combine.
How in any way does that make it profitable to Capcom? Casual players outnumber Hardcore 1000 to 1. I should also note that sfii got ridiculous sales and was ported to every console out at the time. Alpha3 got 1 million copies and was ported to the PSP and GBA, etc. But what did sfiii get ported to? It had one copy on the Ps2, and at that only sold like 1000 copies when it was out on the Dreamcast. Tournaments don't hold much to actual sales, maybe you should do your homework. By the way, none of this distracts from the fact that sfiii has an inordinate amount of frames to redraw and would cost tons more than sfii to make...you know, the one that everyone actually knows. Most people hadn't played a sf since sfii and were wondering why this was sfiv, because they didn't know a sfiii even existed. Your affection for sfiii is just an opinion and holds no force on sales.
Trust me homie I know my SF homework. I grew up playing nothing but SF. Of course people knew about SF2 more then SF 3 at the time because SF 1 and SF 2 came out with hardly no competition, until Mortal Kombat, Killer Instant, and Tekken came out. When SF3 new Generation came out it was a bad time cuz Tekken was big. Even when SF 3 2nd Impact came out it wasn't known to people that much. It wasn't until 3rd Strike came out when SF 3 series was known to people.
So, what happen after that? SF fans started going back to New Generation and 2nd Impact to see how it was, and then they had a full understanding of the SF3 series. Far as sales goes you're right SF2 probably have the biggest sale, but Capcom have to think about the new gamers as well, and the new gamers knows more about SF3 then SF2. So, if Capcom release a HD mix of 3rd Strike, it won't hurt them in sales. Yes, many regular fighting fans probably wont buy it, but the hardcore SF fans will. Like ME!!!!!! :D
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike isn't anywhere near as popular (in general, not in fan circles) and the animations are far, FAR more fluid (meaning considerably more effort is needed to redo them). It also has more characters than Super Turbo. It would be far more work for them to remake the game in HD, and the return wouldn't be nearly as high as it was for the HD Remix they've already made.
Right. Most popular Street Fighter + low frames = profit. Least popular Street Fighter + High frames = big loss, and sfiii's death. It would make no sense for them to do this. Also think about TvC, MvC2, sfiv, and sfii HD Remix being out in the same climate. Everyone has their Street Fighter fill for the moment, to release sfiii again now would be a very stupid idea.
Are you blind? I take it you haven't look at the SF IV gudie booklet. If you did your SF homework you notice that SF 3 Third Strike holds the record of having most tournaments then any other SF game in the series. Plus the most funniest to play out of the whole series. SF3 also have the BEST gameplay then all of the SF games combine.
How in any way does that make it profitable to Capcom? Casual players outnumber Hardcore 1000 to 1. I should also note that sfii got ridiculous sales and was ported to every console out at the time. Alpha3 got 1 million copies and was ported to the PSP and GBA, etc. But what did sfiii get ported to? It had one copy on the Ps2, and at that only sold like 1000 copies when it was out on the Dreamcast. Tournaments don't hold much to actual sales, maybe you should do your homework. By the way, none of this distracts from the fact that sfiii has an inordinate amount of frames to redraw and would cost tons more than sfii to make...you know, the one that everyone actually knows. Most people hadn't played a sf since sfii and were wondering why this was sfiv, because they didn't know a sfiii even existed. Your affection for sfiii is just an opinion and holds no force on sales.
Trust me homie I know my SF homework. I grew up playing nothing but SF. Of course people knew about SF2 more then SF 3 at the time because SF 1 and SF 2 came out with hardly no competition, until Mortal Kombat, Killer Instant, and Tekken came out. When SF3 new Generation came out it was a bad time cuz Tekken was big. Even when SF 3 2nd Impact came out it wasn't known to people that much. It wasn't until 3rd Strike came out when SF 3 series was known to people.
So, what happen after that? SF fans started going back to New Generation and 2nd Impact to see how it was, and then they had a full understanding of the SF3 series. Far as sales goes you're right SF2 probably have the biggest sale, but Capcom have to think about the new gamers as well, and the new gamers knows more about SF3 then SF2. So, if Capcom release a HD mix of 3rd Strike, it won't hurt them in sales. Yes, many regular fighting fans probably wont buy it, but the hardcore SF fans will. Like ME!!!!!! :D
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Come on dude 70 percent of all the people that claim they have played SF3 have played it from an emulator. What makes you think they will buy SF3? So sad...cuz the game is solid...
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