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Is Akuma/Gouki a bad guy or is he misunderstood?
1 month ago  ::  Oct 24, 2009 - 12:46AM #21
Alex
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To me, he's a misunderstood character. He wants a challenging fight and accordingly submits himself to the dark hadou to achieve victory. Really, he only fights because it's the only thing he knows.


Definately not even close to being a villian.


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1 month ago  ::  Oct 24, 2009 - 10:25PM #22
de BLOO
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I like to think it's open for interpretation.


...damn that's so pretentious of me.

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1 month ago  ::  Oct 24, 2009 - 10:31PM #23
TwiGGy
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Oct 24, 2009 -- 12:33AM, RagingDemon015 wrote:


Oct 23, 2009 -- 7:30PM, TwiGGy wrote:


That's not a reliable source Travis...


 


That picture isn't Ryu, Akuma is not that much older than Ryu.



I'll have to dissent with the age difference. Akuma's age is not too far from Gouken's but despite this fact, the kid in the image is certainly not Ryu.




Yeah, but the age difference between Akuma & Ryu isn't that great.


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1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 1:00AM #24
vasili10
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Oct 24, 2009 -- 10:31PM, TwiGGy wrote:


 


Yeah, but the age difference between Akuma & Ryu isn't that great.




Around 19 years.  In any case, Ryu's at least 23 by the time Gouki wears beads.

1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 1:07AM #25
TwiGGy
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Oct 25, 2009 -- 1:00AM, vasili10 wrote:


Oct 24, 2009 -- 10:31PM, TwiGGy wrote:


 


Yeah, but the age difference between Akuma & Ryu isn't that great.




Around 19 years.  In any case, Ryu's at least 23 by the time Gouki wears beads.




For sure. I didn't realize the beads thing, but he does look a lot older than mid/late twenties there.


 


Thanks for pointing that out.


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1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 1:11PM #26
Dhylec
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Akuma has his own moral belief, and in it, he is not "evil".


Gouki may be evil by our moral standards (he killed his teacher and brother), but he is not evil by his own ethical code.  His code is the harsh code of the absolute warrior.  He had no qualms killing his teacher and brother because he killed them in fair one-on-one combat.  It didn't matter who they were; the field of battle does not distinguish between friend or foe.  And he only fights and kills those who call themselves warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn't go around killing  defenseless normal people.


Although he killed his brother and his teacher (and while his goal is to use Ansatsuken like it was meant to be used), he performed the murders for personal gain only (...) He believes he has committed no trangression. [Gouki's] training comes first and foremost, and he will not interrupt it to warn off unwary passersby (hence the destruction of the submarine).



Akuma's "misunderstood" per the above, but just because he doesn't think he's wrong in his personal ethics code doesn't mean he's not still an evil person. Fighting to the death is not a good action, it's something people do only to protect their own life. To fight to the death outside of a life-or-death situation is a disregard for life, and the opponents he finds who are also willing to fight to the death only share the same disregard. And if your training is more important than the lives of others.. I think that speaks for itself.


So he's misunderstood, maybe, sure. But still evil.


 

1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 3:01PM #27
vasili10
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Oct 25, 2009 -- 1:07AM, TwiGGy wrote:


 


For sure. I didn't realize the beads thing, but he does look a lot older than mid/late twenties there.


 


Thanks for pointing that out.




You're welcome TwiGGy.

1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 3:04PM #28
unrealman
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when most Samurai duel it was to the death. the fame swordsman Miyamoto Musashi engauge in over 60 fights to the death.


 


edit Samurai fight to the death for pride, honor and to prove their strength to their opponets.


 


 


 


 

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1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 3:22PM #29
TwiGGy
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It depends on the culture.


In a warrior culture like Unrealman mentioned with the Samurai, it's about pride, honor, etc.


It's not exactly Akuma's intention to kill, but to be victorious & better himself.


 


Many people have died in boxing matches, you can't say that those who killed their opponents were evil, it's just the nature of the sport. It's no secret that hitting someone repeatedly on the head can cause death, yet they do what they have to do to win. Dying is just a risk you take when you decide to fight.


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1 month ago  ::  Oct 25, 2009 - 10:03PM #30
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Oct 25, 2009 -- 1:11PM, Dhylec wrote:


Akuma has his own moral belief, and in it, he is not "evil".


Gouki may be evil by our moral standards (he killed his teacher and brother), but he is not evil by his own ethical code.  His code is the harsh code of the absolute warrior.  He had no qualms killing his teacher and brother because he killed them in fair one-on-one combat.  It didn't matter who they were; the field of battle does not distinguish between friend or foe.  And he only fights and kills those who call themselves warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn't go around killing  defenseless normal people.


Although he killed his brother and his teacher (and while his goal is to use Ansatsuken like it was meant to be used), he performed the murders for personal gain only (...) He believes he has committed no trangression. [Gouki's] training comes first and foremost, and he will not interrupt it to warn off unwary passersby (hence the destruction of the submarine).



Akuma's "misunderstood" per the above, but just because he doesn't think he's wrong in his personal ethics code doesn't mean he's not still an evil person. Fighting to the death is not a good action, it's something people do only to protect their own life. To fight to the death outside of a life-or-death situation is a disregard for life, and the opponents he finds who are also willing to fight to the death only share the same disregard. And if your training is more important than the lives of others.. I think that speaks for itself.


So he's misunderstood, maybe, sure. But still evil.




He didn't even attack the submarine, it was just collateral damage from Akuma testing his move. I doubt he was even aware that it was there.

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