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1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2008 - 10:07PM #61
Turian
Posts: 185

I think Sven just got told to go jump off a bridge. 

1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2008 - 10:21PM #62
alex
Posts: 21

WHAT ARE YOU GAINING BY NOT TELLING US?  YOU HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MAN!

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 12:37AM #63
s-kill
Posts: 1,185

Hey guys,


Rather than being some kind of insidious plan to torture the MM faithful, this all began as an offhand comment I made addressing a question about a secret weapon.  I responded honestly and in good faith saying there wasn't any (so far as I know, which is pretty far), and that there was only one undiscovered MM9 secret that I knew about.  The next day there are a bunch of headlines saying "ZOMG MM9 SEEKRITS POSSIBLE NEW WEAPON!"  This, despite that being exactly what I said it was NOT.  Much of the speculation has continued to circulate around that possibility, which is a little nuts, since yeah--I said it was NOT a secret weapon.


Now that fans have failed to discover the secret weapon that I said as clearly as possible does not exist, people have given up, preferring to think it's a hoax rather than accept the possibility there's something they might not have found (after what--a week of looking?).  I understand that urge--it's certainly easier to think that.  Unfortunately (or, I should say, fortunately), this is no hoax--if it was, I would have been a) having more fun with it b) coming up with some more interesting teases, as there are certainly some good launching pads for speculation. 


That said, I have no plans to reveal this little nugget.  Eventually someone will ferret it out, and if they do, I'll step up and say "yep, that was it!"  Until then, no way, and as I said, I doubt anyone will come up with it for quite some time.  If they do, my hat is off to them, and I'll find something worthwhile to share by way of a prize. 


As an aside, I'd like to note that I have played SSF2T pretty much constantly for the past 15 years with the best players in the world, analyzed every aspect down to the lines of code and beyond, and I still learn new things about it regularly.  I regard this as a good thing. You guys on the other hand heard about one MM9 thing you haven't uncovered yet and are falling all over yourselves because you haven't unearthed it after just a week.  A note of restraint is in order.  Sit back, enjoy MM9, and eventually someone will get it.  Until then, you aren't going to be getting it out of me.  


evilly, I guess...


Seth


 

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1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 1:22AM #64
Ludo
Posts: 14,947

oo... he said no, he said rejected lmao nah playin.


but he, sooner or later someone will figure it out, like he said.

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1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 2:52AM #65
DZX
Posts: 171

Thanks for clearing that up Seth (even though it should've been pretty obvious to everyone).




 It would be interesting
if it was a costume change for Mega Man. Like the starforce costume,
for example. It could help promote the series. ;)


The reason I say is, I remember seeing an official sprite of 8-bit
starforce megaman somewhere. I wonder if they are still hiding those
somewhere. :)




I'd love something like this, but this can't be it. People who have hacked the sprites out of the game have found nothing like that. I was personally hoping Inti Creates would put the 8 bit sprites from ZX Advent in there as a secret.




It's not a weapon, not a secret room, not a "Meery Xmas on Dec
17th", no secret projectile sprites to play with those MM throw
animations; so, what's up? No matter.


We know it is not a weapon (Seth told us it wasn't), but how do you know it's not a secret room? I personally think a secret room is unlikely (people should have bombed every wall by now with every weapon), but it's still very possible that we somehow missed something like that.


Haha... Why would it say Merry Xmas on Dec 17th?




If it isn't an extra weapon and there are no hidden rooms... then we
would have to get it via cheat code or DLC, right? though, there are no
slots (question marks) in the modes option... that doesn't mean we
couldn't download TECHNIQUES or another character... or ANYTHING. 
Perhaps we will get Rush Adapter... or... something I can't even
imagine.




More DLC is always possible I think, but let's think for a moment and use some
common sense. Would Seth really have us looking for something that
isn't there? Anyway, it's not a new character or a Rush adapter. Nothing like that was found by the hackers who ripped the sprites.


Cheat codes themselves (as in infinite health, infinite lives, etc) are unlikely. This game has leaderboards and challenges. The game wouldn't just let you cheat... right? Maybe something like that is possible under Special games though.


Getting the secret with a cheat code is possible. At one point I was thinking that it could be a secret menu (something like sound test or gallery) and was inputing random codes in my Player name. I had no luck, but again, would Seth really have us looking for something like this? Something that requires random button presses and dumb luck? I doubt it.



Anyway, one more thing to be added into the list of "secrets": censored words, like "SIGMA".

"GM" is the censored word there. Words like BGM or Magma Man don't work either... I don't even know what GM means.



Well... if there are no
other throw sprites... and it looks as if megaman might be saying
"charge" or "sic" ... maybe that tiger from the GB series is back!  Or
maybe... with enough Beat items, you might be able to aquire the
whistle!  Instead of him throwing something... he might be actually
saying GO, KICK SOME ASS!




Hackers who have ripped the sprites out of the game haven't found any tigers sprites in the game.


Anyway, I guess I'll still be looking, but I really don't have any ideas left to try.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 3:25AM #66
Turian
Posts: 185

Nov 6, 2008 -- 12:37AM, s-kill wrote:


Hey guys,


Rather than being some kind of insidious plan to torture the MM faithful, this all began as an offhand comment I made addressing a question about a secret weapon.  I responded honestly and in good faith saying there wasn't any (so far as I know, which is pretty far), and that there was only one undiscovered MM9 secret that I knew about.  The next day there are a bunch of headlines saying "ZOMG MM9 SEEKRITS POSSIBLE NEW WEAPON!"  This, despite that being exactly what I said it was NOT.  Much of the speculation has continued to circulate around that possibility, which is a little nuts, since yeah--I said it was NOT a secret weapon.


Now that fans have failed to discover the secret weapon that I said as clearly as possible does not exist, people have given up, preferring to think it's a hoax rather than accept the possibility there's something they might not have found (after what--a week of looking?).  I understand that urge--it's certainly easier to think that.  Unfortunately (or, I should say, fortunately), this is no hoax--if it was, I would have been a) having more fun with it b) coming up with some more interesting teases, as there are certainly some good launching pads for speculation. 


That said, I have no plans to reveal this little nugget.  Eventually someone will ferret it out, and if they do, I'll step up and say "yep, that was it!"  Until then, no way, and as I said, I doubt anyone will come up with it for quite some time.  If they do, my hat is off to them, and I'll find something worthwhile to share by way of a prize. 


As an aside, I'd like to note that I have played SSF2T pretty much constantly for the past 15 years with the best players in the world, analyzed every aspect down to the lines of code and beyond, and I still learn new things about it regularly.  I regard this as a good thing. You guys on the other hand heard about one MM9 thing you haven't uncovered yet and are falling all over yourselves because you haven't unearthed it after just a week.  A note of restraint is in order.  Sit back, enjoy MM9, and eventually someone will get it.  Until then, you aren't going to be getting it out of me.  


evilly, I guess...


Seth


 




 


I never said there was a secret weapon when I brought this news to headlines. You want proof? Read here:


http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=7618.0


I said Undiscovered Mega Man 9 Secret. Which is what YOU said. You were not misquoted, but I can see that now that the pressure is on you wanna flake out and point fingers in the opposite direction. So, this is me defending myself. If other sites misquoted me, well that's not my problem. That's just inaccurate work.


 


As far as not revealing the secret, I think thats reasonable but you held the carrot in front of our faces long enough, and you are tortureing us. Its not very nice of you to not even give one little hint. I do agree you should let us find it, but you could at least give us something to go on.


 


 tl:dr version: It's your hat, YOU wear it.


 

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 3:41AM #67
Boco
Posts: 119

Thanks, I guess, but I hope you're not seriously expecting us to disassemble the game in order to find the thing.


 


We know it doesn't involve any new graphics, since we HAVE ripped those at least.  A sound test would be nice but there's an official OST, and anyway, a code for the sound test with no clues in the game isn't a secret anyone can be expected to find (that's why you leak the codes to magazines).  So that leaves hidden rooms, items, messages, etc.  But if it's none of the things already mentioned...


 


So, since you talked about understanding the code of SF2 so intimately.  Is it a glitch we're looking for?  Like zipping through walls with Concrete Shot?  Dying after killing a boss?  Using Beat or E-Tanks in TIme Attack mode?  Having Galaxy Man abandon you to being forever trapped in his room while he takes a vacation?  The game freezing if you look at the description of a downloadable you've already downloaded?


 


No?


 


Then at least give us somewhere to start.

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1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 3:52AM #68
Turian
Posts: 185

Your post just made me realize something. Its nothing. The secret is nothing, Seth is messing with us. We HAVE tried everything down to a controller two trick and a gamecube controller trick. We tried secret names, dates, and blowing up every wall. We have done everything possible short of a secret code which is not expected to be discovered unless leaked. So im going with nothing, its only logical.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 6:05AM #69
DZX
Posts: 171

Hints would be much appreciated, but I really don't think he's going to give out any. Many people have already asked for hints and how many have been given out?


Your post just made me realize something. Its nothing. The secret is
nothing, Seth is messing with us. We HAVE tried everything down to a
controller two trick and a gamecube controller trick. We tried secret
names, dates, and blowing up every wall. We have done everything
possible short of a secret code which is not expected to be discovered
unless leaked. So im going with nothing, its only logical.


It's only logical that there is something that we haven't tried yet if this secret is still undiscovered. So what's the point of this post really? If you believe it is nothing, then don't bother looking for it. Anyway, I still want to correct you on a few points.


Secret names - I seriously doubt any of us have tried every single combination of letters.
Dates - Same, we haven't tried every date.
Levels - It's still very possible that
we somehow missed something. Think outside of the box. What if the secret isn't in a wall?


I noticed some new things on my last playthrough. They may not be new to you guys, but...


Weapons...
Magma Bazooka - Charged shot can destroy small bullets from metools and other enemies.
Jewel Satellite - Dissipates when you shoot them at the lasers. (Dr. Wily's castle & Special Stage)


Like Seth has said, you can play a game for more than 10 years and still learn
something new from it. Surely some of you don't know as much about Mega Man 9 as you think you do.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2008 - 8:33AM #70
Zepper
Posts: 682

You're avoiding simple questions, and no, I'm not doing any kind of trick to get the thing unrevealed, *if* any, of course. I will insist again: that unused MegaMan animation of weapon throwing... IS or IS NOT related with the secret? I would answer *no*, because if it was, a secret weapon would be the secret, but it isn't.


Nov 6, 2008 -- 12:37AM, s-kill wrote:

Much of the speculation has continued to circulate around that possibility, which is a little nuts, since yeah--I said it was NOT a secret weapon.



- Don't push yourself. Probably you know about those 2 hidden "weapons" in MegaMan IV (items Wire and Balloon), so it was natural to think about the same gift in the game, but fine... it was the only question you answered.


Nov 6, 2008 -- 12:37AM, s-kill wrote:

no hoax--if it was, I would have been a) having more fun with it b) coming up with some more interesting teases, as there are certainly some good launching pads for speculation.



- Actually, I don't know how to define "having more fun with it", because looks fun to you anyway, eh? ;) Okay.


Nov 6, 2008 -- 12:37AM, s-kill wrote:

That said, I have no plans to reveal this little nugget.  Eventually someone will ferret it out, and if they do, I'll step up and say "yep, that was it!"  Until then, no way, and as I said, I doubt anyone will come up with it for quite some time.  If they do, my hat is off to them, and I'll find something worthwhile to share by way of a prize.



- A little nugget? Hmm... I was expecting something bigger, but ok, I know that MegaMan dies in the lava. :D


- Who said one week? It's unfair if you consider we're playing this game since September 22th! There's a lot of awesome players... and cheaters in the leaderboards, scoring times MUCH lower than it would be acceptable. Anyway, there's nothing yet.

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