Sep 13, 2009 -- 8:34PM, C4SINO wrote:

I know all that, they were just examples. But there doesn't seem to be much co-op stuff going on when you play, in all honesty how many people do you see using the T-ENERGY on their buddies?

Most people just seem to run of and do their own thing, I play co-op games to work as a team, not to just have a few extra guys.

I can only assume you are explicitly talking about playing with "randoms", or players that are not already your friends on XBL. If you aren't, then your friends are jerks and hog all the T-eng juice

Seriously though, do you know how incredibly unlikely it is for "team" games to actually play out that way in public matches? You need friends or at the very least teammates who care about the game at hand just as much as you do, otherwise it's difficult if not impossible to work towards performance goals as a team. Look at any random round of Halo 3 CTF, half of the people don't play defense or offense, they just run around like it's slayer. Does that mean they did a crap job implementing a vanilla CTF spec? No

Another aspect of the random cooperative barrier is that as far as T-eng support goes, you only see the health of your teammates and their current T-eng supply level briefly when they are damaged, so it's hard to tell when randoms need healing until it is too late. Even then, I've dropped a couple K T-eng on someone who was beat up bad, and he clearly didn't even know how to use his harmonizer so the next time he caught a tail whip to the dome all was for naught.

It would be nice to have a report card breakdown detail view at the end of the boss fights, I'll agree with that. I also think the C & D ratings for support players are always going to be that way, and the easy way to get around it is to play the boss every which way from Sunday to get the true experience and all of your S ranks - you'll probably only "need" to get them once, anyways, if achievements are your thing.

Lol, perhaps I should just shut up then. I'm just used to other Co-op games where the  co-operative functions are basically right in front of you.

But it does get annoying using the support weapon on your buddies, and they think you're trying to kill them and shoot back at you.

I kown what you mean C4SINO, there arn't a whole lot of deep coop moves to do.

who cares if it isnt co-opy enough its LP 2!! haha

we havnt even seen the whole game yet so chill

The 360 demo has been out for almost a month now.