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Marvel vs Capcom 2: 2nd Balance
2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 10:02AM #1
nightshade_shinobi
Posts: 224

I remember when Ono was asked about mvc3 and he said that he didnt want to be the one at the helm of balancing 50 or more characters if such a game was to happen, something to that effect. So I made this thread to pitch in ideas on how to balance the character roster if an mvc2 nex gen remake or an mvc3 ever happens. Feel free to input your ideas as well.


Here are my idea on how to balance the roster in a future mvc game....


 


-Remove all infinities, if any fighting game has infinites then its obviosly broken, fix it!


-Remove all triangle jumping, yes, that's right I'm talking about you Magneto and Storm


-Slow down Magneto and Storm just a bit


-Give everyone the ability to air dash, because some characters like the Hulk can barely move around


-Remove Cable's pistol, have him ONLY use it as his d+fierce punch move, his default stance will be him holding his viper beam instead. Similar to how Saki in tvc wields a gatling gun. Just improve Cable's close up combo game so that way he isnt a total vegtable without his pistol when people get in his face.


-Remove Cable's AHVB all together, including the tiger knee AHVB.


- Reform Capcom's roster bring in their heavy hitters, there is no reason why almost half of capcom's roster is from Street Fighter. Ryu/Chun Li/Alex is more than enough. For all those Akuma/Ken fans just give Ryu back his ability to change shoto forms from mvc1. No reason to waste characters boxes on shoto clones, and as a gimmeck give ryu the ability to use Dan's moves, PINK KI TRANSFORMATION!


- Big characters like Sentinel and PTX-40A can only be teamed up with ONE character instead of 2.


-Can you have King Servbot be playable?


Anyway the whole point of this thread is to make some changes that in the next mvc game(if it ever happens) that at least EVERY character can hold their own, like in mvc1. That's really all Im aiming for.


 


 

2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 12:20PM #2
Rey Magnus™
Posts: 1148

I love my broken Mahvel... I love my infinites... I love everything about MvC2. I don't want it to change. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others don't.


Plus, it's gonna be hard getting rid of the infinites with the current engine. You think they didn't try and do that for the other Vs games?


Not to mention your suggestions for Cable just turned him into a bad character.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 2:34PM #3
Clayton
Posts: 382

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with any of your suggestions. With the game being as unbalanced as it is, it becomes more fun to me. Where's the challenge in playing against 50 other characters when all of your skills and stats are the same.?


It's much more entertaining to see a good B.B. Hood player going at it with Sentinel

"I have no idea why you would continue to play against anyone other than your cat." Preppy
2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 2:46PM #4
TwiGGy
Posts: 2799

Yeah, I don't like these suggestions either. Those things are why we play Marvel.


 


& I think you might be missing the point. Balancing a game is a very difficult process. Having a game with over 50 unique characters AND tight tiers is near impossible.  Look at SFIII, it has less than half of the characters Marvel has, yet tournament players only use 3 characters. (Yun, Chun Li, & Ken) Despite what the devoloper's intentions were, players always find out certain combos & tricks that the devs themselves did not know about.


 


I suspect if there was an MvC3 & they chose to have over 50 characters, it would be the same old Marvel.


It's either that, or we get a slightly more balanced game with half the characters. I personally prefer how broken the game is. It's a change of pace for me.


 


Currently Playing: King of Fighters XII, Street Fighter IV, Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix, Resident Evil 5

Coming Soon: Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Super Street Fighter IV, Dead Rising 2, Lost Planet 2, Bayonetta, Dark Void, Monster Hunter Tri
2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 4:28PM #5
Sandra
Posts: 22

woooow..so you're all saying you love infinite combos?...wooow... that's just ..lame.


 


I agree whit the infinite comobo removal..


 


But giving Hulk an air dash.. COME ON! he will OWN the frakin game...ask then to give him the viper gun or a shinkuhadouken..why not?


 


Also a limited number of Asists like in MVC1 will be great

2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 4:56PM #6
Dios X
Posts: 672

Theres a reason why marvel 2 has been played for 9 years and is still going. The way it is right now is why its so fun. If you practiced more and upped your skill to hang with the better players you would see why this is. For others who dont know how to play they just get overhwelmed and either complain or give up.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 5:43PM #7
RyuLI
Posts: 383

Yea I think you'd guys would really prefer to play TvC instead of MvC because you can put a "mega crush" on a combo. Its much more balanced then marvel. Give that a shot n leave marvel alone!

I came here to do 2 things eat pretzels and kill people and right now im all outta pretzals
2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 6:45PM #8
Sandra
Posts: 22

i was thinking... how about giving JUggy a jedi Ligth Saber..


 


Or A proton canon for Colosus


 


A sniper rifle to Spider-man


Adamantium clws for ryu.


 


Weather controling powers to Ken.


 


and..i'm kiding.


The game it's fine as it is..


 


It doesn't matter wich game you're `playing people wiil always find easy ways to win.


 


.Infinyte combos, Glitches, Spawn Helpers like crazy-


 


It's not the game foult..it's ours

2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 8:29PM #9
spin
Posts: 6

u guys who are saying u dont agree i dont understand u


hes talking about a mvc2 new game


its all good that you like marvel vs capcom 2 and want to keep it that way  but theres already a game just like that out


its called marvel vs capcom 2


lol


we need some changes for a 3rd instalment so be helpfull


infinates are a no go in my oppinion


there should never be a point in a fighting game where you  no longer have the chance to win


 

2 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2009 - 9:06PM #10
TwiGGy
Posts: 2799

To be fair, he was also talking about an MvC2 remake. As fans of MvC2, the good majority of us like the game the way it is. We would also expect to see very similar gameplay in a future installment, meaning some not balanced.


 


If that doesn't appeal to you, you're better off playing Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.


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Coming Soon: Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Super Street Fighter IV, Dead Rising 2, Lost Planet 2, Bayonetta, Dark Void, Monster Hunter Tri
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