Jun 8, 2009 -- 10:57AM, WhoDaFunk wrote:

very true I for one don't want anything remotely similar to the climax handling .....

I have played several Motorcycling games on PC and Consoles Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3, PSP ( I own all those ). And the most I have more excitement with, still is MotoGP 3 URT by Climax which is not and was a perfect game, keep in mind this game is from 2005, second... MotoGP 3 URT did surpass the game play of GP1, (GP2 flip flop real bad), 06, 07, 08. I'm not going into details and or compare the versions of MotoGP Xbox 360 vs. PlayStations. because the Climax MotoGP series sold better than any MotoGP game on the PlayStation. I do not know what (WhoDaFunk) may have against Climax, but surely enough you might hate the next release of MotoGP Capcom/Monumental, cause Monumental production is the team who brought you the award winning franchise on the Xbox, in other words ...CLIMAX.  www.monumentalgames.com/motoGp.php

Throughout the entire (years) MotoGP forum, Monumental has a vast collection of information of what "we" as fans want and don't want, what "we" love to see and what we hate to see, perhaps the next MotoGP Capcom/Monumental release won't pleased every one, elementary... some people are demanding a truly Sim race, which I think is not impossible to develop, but will take much more than perfection, just because you can't pleased everyone; From the point of view of making a successful game $$$, you have to make a game for Everyone (E), if you make a game for Everyone (E), then you have to make available Riding Aids and such.

I think people has to settle down a bit about this super duper Simulation, as long as you have excitement with a strong intelligent "AI" and a good fair online game play, it'll be fine. Why not take all great things from previous motorcycling games and implementing it on a new fresh game (if the wheel is round why trying to make it square?)

One more time... "Do the developers record the MotoGP races and watch them again, again until getting the passion for the sport?, do they pay attention on how the bikes and riders behave?, also the camera's view angle that Dorna Sports provide for TV broadcasting?" (it's impressive to see in the game of what you are used to see on TV)

Capcom has the exclusive license from Dorna Sports and I won't doubt for a moment that Capcom/Monumental could have the permission from Dorna to ask a real MotoGP Engineer for basics technical data, and implement these data into the game. 

PS. I have posted some videos of mine playing MotoGP 3 URT, I have proved that is nothing mayor wrong with MotoGP 3 URT by Climax game, on the contrary, Now I want to see from all of you guys video(s) of your best game play and let people in this forum compare. (Preferable videos in 3rd person view, whereas we all can see the bike behavior).

lol Joe!

Simulation of a real world machine would be chosen Flight simulators..

IMO a full blown Motorcycle simulation would lack that euphoric feeling only brought by reality!

Flight simulators are more realistic interms of the millions of buttons and such on a real jet. The sensation can only be mocked at Universal Studio and such, not Playstation 0r Xbox.

In fact I've read that a Pilot can take off, land and fly using gauges only, so in essence this would make a simulation of such a real world thing, feel realistic in your living room... More so than a Motorcycle!

Also its a bit more realistic to own a Motorcycle for the everyday Joe, no pun intended.

I think bringing MotoGP closer to REAL simulation, (not an impression) of what we think is simulation would fair boring IMO.

The whole enjoyment and excitement of MotoGP gaming for me is Controlling a toy GP bike on a track. NOT stuggling to see where I'm going due to vibration and being behind a faring and having no peripheral vision due to lack of realisim within a game environment. Hence near impossible to emulate a real motorcycle simulation unless you, the costumer has lots of money to buy wrap around LCDs to play MotoGP.. Not to mention the man hours it would take to develope such a beast of a game..

Lets be honest/realistic here please. We are yet to play a proper simulation of real world and physical being! 

I think this is an endless debate that only draws out opinions that turn to flames. If everyone would only accept the fact that we are talk about a GAME here then maybe we can move forward with ideas to create a balanced game that can provide fun for those of us who can't race MotGP and do so by means a an entertainment system be it Playstation or any other gaming system.

This doesn't mean that MotoGP the GAME should be like Mario Kart as some suggest I am asking for, lol... I think Climax did a great job at creating a good balance with their series.. I have my personal likes and dislikes about those games as we all do but Climax provided things that NO other motorcycle game has achieved yet!

Not to say that Milestone haven't done a nice job also, but its lacking things that create excitement and IMO MotoGP08 is more marketed as a Sim than and arcade racer so what does that tell you? 

Let the bashing begin!

Jun 8, 2009 -- 5:10PM, Eugene wrote:

.....were you asking us to post videos from MGP 3 or any game?

Any Motorcycle racing game are welcome preferable videos in 3rd person view, whereas we all can see the bike behavior.... the purpose of my idea is to give Capcom/Monumental a better vision of what we as fans want, and from there "we" can draw better ideas, instead of picking on each other. We can develop an intelligent debate.

no, a poll will only show who on this board want a hardcore sim.  That is not a fair representation, and makes perfect sense ;)

Jun 8, 2009 -- 6:00PM, gmontalc wrote:

 the purpose of my idea is to give Capcom/Monumental a better vision of what we as fans want.

now go read my post again and ask yourself why you're pulling your hair out. 

and just to clarify my point.  You post your poll on several different boards and your answers will be different.  e.g. (for example) you ask a sim question in a sim crowd you'll have a sim answer.  Doesn't take a genuis to figure it out, and I'm guessing you're no genuis...........

not that it's a hot topical point, other things in my post were more worthy of a mention.  I wouldn't expect you to see much sense in something that doesn't hold sway with you.  Typical.