| 6 months ago :: Jun 22, 2009 - 4:36PM #11 | |
The valuable info you talk about coming from the old games are you serious? They all suck really. There are some good points to them but even GP 2 the best of all of em could have been better. The sport Exists. No need to go and try and invent the way the bikes work since all that info and telemetry exists. Some smart designer needs to go and use what is there and create a game that most of the people I come up against would like to see. YOu are barely in touch with what the masses want, especially since you don't play an xbox. Ps is a joke cause of all the reasons you need your patches and holes sewn up with that crap system. The live experience is something that needs alot of work on either system. But xbox is better by far right away. I just hope someone becomes suddenly aware that this game could be done in such a manner that doesn't require one to reinvent the wheel. Geez...no elitism there!!! I guess you think everyone playing these sims is 13 years old. Newsflash, but there are a LOT of us that are old geezers and enjoy the heck out of these sims ON A PC. Especially in bad weather when we can't ride our REAL sportbikes. And YOU speak for the MASSES???? Well nice to meet you Mr. Obama.
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 1:32PM #12 | |
Geez...no elitism there!!! I guess you think everyone plaing these sims is 13 years old. Newsflash, but there are a LOT of us that are old geezers and enjoy the heck out of these sims ON A PC. Especially in bad weather when we can't ride our REAL sportbikes. And YOU speak for the MASSES???? Well nice to meet you Mr. Obama.
Listen d-bag. I speak for the group of folks who I run with on gp. Not a one is 13, try 30's 40's. The PC has and never will be a main focus for this title. The console folks speak out more so or else this site would be inundated with the pc ilk. Obama sucks about as much as you do. And you must suck cause your not giving any good info just rippin on me. I am and have been one of the xbox people that has spoken about this title for years where were you mrs. pc user? So it isn't the fact that there aren't alot of pc users it is just that all the folks that post most are console users. So instead of being the world jester to your court of morons. Shut up and speak to those that care what you say cause so far you have said nothing at all that seems like you have any clue. And if you think your such an online bad ass buy a console like most people and try to keep up. My guess is that you can't that is why you hide on your PC. Have fun pc chick. |
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 3:35PM #13 | |
Listen d-bag. I speak for the group of folks who I run with on gp. Not a one is 13, try 30's 40's. The PC has and never will be a main focus for this title. The console folks speak out more so or else this site would be inundated with the pc ilk. Obama sucks about as much as you do. And you must suck cause your not giving any good info just rippin on me. I am and have been one of the xbox people that has spoken about this title for years where were you mrs. pc user? So it isn't the fact that there aren't alot of pc users it is just that all the folks that post most are console users. So instead of being the world jester to your court of morons. Shut up and speak to those that care what you say cause so far you have said nothing at all that seems like you have any clue. And if you think your such an online bad ass buy a console like most people and try to keep up. My guess is that you can't that is why you hide on your PC. Have fun pc chick.
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 4:11PM #14 | |
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Hey Deputy! Welcome to the site bro and nice to have more opinions as they are always welcome. No need man to endulge in countering ignorants, moving along, the reason I started this topic to help those who have never played the very first MotoGP by Climax and to help them realize it offers a more realistic approach oppose to its console offerings. This really isn't a PC vs Console debate. There's really no debating the fact that PC is always the starting point and offers much deeper involvemnet and future bonds of players and modders alike and really helps to bring additions to the world of console gaming for people who don't have the money/knowledge to expand to PC gaming and realize where it all stems from.. You can't blame people for being ignorant. Being ignorant doesn't mean your stupid, it just means your unaware of what is. But the topic is really about how Climax's MotoGP URT (1) (PC) and (original PC port to Xbox) differs from all Climax's post offerings and how much it has interms of handling physics that most are asking for, but don't even realize the original source code has those type of handling physics.. So I also must stress that designing MotoGP 09/10 doesn't just mean focusing on one platform be it Ps3 or Xbox360. Its about the source code being written on PC and ported over to consoles and how they are dumbed down in our present state of gaming oppose to say back in 2002 when Gp1 was offered to PC gamers in its original Code then recoded for Xbl demo disc, ultimatly bringing the level of realisim down for a general audience and adding features like Fish bouncer and other mini games to attract the masses, not to accommodate PC gamers as they already got the real deal! Monumental seems very passionate about their approach to a future MotoGP and being as the source code is written on PC I feel it will make its way over to PC when all the dust settles. The one interesting thing is the split of Climax to Black Rock and now, Boom! Heres Monumental! As it seems when Serkan Hassen and J Avent were maning the ship and providing info during the release of Gp3 is when the game became very UnPC and more console dumbed, with extreme mode and such. So, if Monumental are the original Gp1 team as stated and have always had a focused vision opposed to the obvious BlockBuster approach the Gp3 team had then I have big time faith! |
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 6:13PM #15 | |
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Walken: Please accept my apology. I sure didn't mean to hijack the thread. I HAVE read where the original demo version of Moto GP 1 was very different from the full version. Many reviews on websites talk about that and most experees their disappointment. As to the difference between the cartridge game versions and the PC versions, I can't comment on that. I certainly don't have any animosity to cartridge game players. I'm glad it's available on multiple platforms. I just got peed that someone would look down with disdain on PC users. I will also keep my fingers crossed that newer versions of the sim are improvements and not just clones. Right now I am playing SBK 09 on PC. Nice graphics, but there are problems with changing the settings for different controllers. It's still version 1.0, so I expect a patch sometime in the future. Anyway, thanks for the welcome. It IS appreciated |
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 6:25PM #16 | |
Monumental Games have been around since 2005, they have not just appeared lol Black Rock were formed in 2007. Now there's a history lesson for you Climax's MotoGP series is a moot point at this stage as Monumental are using a new engine and starting from scratch.
Now, here's the problem. Some Xbox 360 games are now looking like PlayStation 2 ports, for example SBK08/ 09 and MotoGP 08, I can name a few more. This is why I asked whether they were designing for each platform separately. With the case of all of Climax's MotoGP series, these were only done on Xbox/ Xbox 360, PC and mobile. The source code for each console is different, the consoles have different interfaces, so making one source code for all wouldn't work and def not recommended. Please don't recommend that they do that.
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 6:51PM #17 | |
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No history lesson for me. Your just reading my post and reading into the "BOOM and here's Monumental" part. I didn't mean that Monumental all of a sudden appeared out of no where and have never been a team before, infact I've been watching Monumental for a while now and have a interest in their Hunting game. www.monumentalgames.com/huntersWorld.php Beside why come and stir the pot more? As I said lets try and stay on topic. Its really quite annoying that I can't post a thread without having it go to $hit. Deputy is totally not at fault here! Any normal person in the world can read this entire thread and see how its desolved because of one person and now your adding to it and now its gonna only become worse, "Shame" I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but there are many fans of MotoGP and the members from your site Xbla come here and just rip Capcom-Unity members apart with childish insults, its really sad and true! I started this thread to better understand the physics of MotoGP 1 (Climax) and now its becoming distorted. So either people who understand my point can have a nice debate/discussion about it, or Xbla members can come and ruin my thread with Childish remarks and claim its for the better of the series, lol.. Seriously this is Bull$hit! Grow up.............. |
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 6:56PM #18 | |
Show me where in my post is childish insults, because I can't see any. I was just explaining why it's a bad idea to make one source code for all platforms Again Walken, I am not responsible for what XBLA members write on other boards, I am only responsible for what I write, they have their own minds I don't chain them up or anything lol
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 7:12PM #19 | |
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Quoting You "Monumental Games have been around since 2005, they have not just appeared lol Black Rock were formed in 2007. Now there's a history lesson for you"Unquoting you! Well there is your childish remark acting as if you have something over on me, or know better than I. Besides that Rock completely ruined this thread!And know I'm starting to act like a little whining school brat by even entertaining this nonsense. so know for the next 15 posts in this thread are going to be about whos right about who ruined this thread? I don't understand what your talking about when you say 1 source code? There is (A) source! A meaning (The) then, that source code is doctored to work with different systems/consoles from PC, but always from PC first.. 360 code needs to be written for 360 hardware (ATI) and Ps3 needs to be written for (Nvidia) so on etc... those are just tiny little changes to the code to make it run seemless on consoles. On PC's heres so many hardware choices that its much harder to write every code for every peice of hardware out in the world Old/new... So YES there is A/THE source code... Example, if someone where to be given the source code for Gp1 then they can change the code to suit what they would like to achieve. Most developers start with a code and evolve it, to my understanding. |
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| 6 months ago :: Jun 23, 2009 - 7:28PM #20 | |
OK I'll ignore the first part of your post below as no where was I being childish. There's a known fact that developers find it harder to develop for the PS3 over the Xbox 360. Now why is this? if like you say they use the same source code then surely this would make them both equal to develop for?
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Which you mentioned in your post. I'm perfectly on-topic, thanks. There was no need to jump down my throat, besides this is an open discussion forum.