got confused..few weeks ago i saw this on the net

which was quite good improvment, finally the right pivot...and now they show a crap wrong pivot footage....

a simple question in running about on my mind...WTF IN GOING ON?

CAN'T U "WELL PAID" PROGRAMMERS UNDERSTAND THAT THE MIDDLE PIVOT IS FU**********G WRONG???????????

im a C,C++ programmer..if u want i come up in london to help u!

Sorry, I've been lurking on these boards for a few months now in anticipation of this new MGP game and after seeing this I've finally felt compelled enough to sign up and post. 

All the comments so far have been spot on, this to me is nothing more than a re-hash of '07 and having found out that this is the old Climax team, I'm not surprised.

The graphics, the menus, the extra fluff is all nice, but sorry, you guys need to play some Tourist Trophy or at the very least the Milestone games to get a clue of what a decent physics model feels like.  I dedicated a substantial amount of time to 06/07 and as relatively entertaining as they were, the physics and feel just werent representitive of what it feels like to ride a bike (dont get me started on the double tap power sliding, I mean really?).

I'm not lauding 08 in anyway, which also is pisses me off to no end with how unpolished it is, but at least the physics model is semi-realistic in all the ways it should be (with a few irks here and there).  Grab too much of a handful mid-corner at full lean?  The rear washes out.  Grab too much and chop it? Instant highside.  I'll give it to you guys for online functionality, but 08 can be pretty damn fun when we can gather 8-10 people together in a sim room.  Granted I'm slow as hell, but seeing guys like mavr1c or Intortus being picture perfect with their apexes gives me something to strive for.    

/rant

Graphics looks cartooned, no realistic visuals at all, game needs to be fix ASAP

If the physics are done right then the controls MUST be changed...

Example:  When drifting the bike through a corner a rider's lean and positions are different from the positions when taking a corner without drifting.  ALL the bike sim makers are combining the rider's body lean with the steering of the bike.   That is why it's impossible to drift.. assuming the physics are correct in the sim.

S E P A R A T E the axis for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Lets us move rider and steeer on separate axis.  Also, a part of the drift is slowing the momentum of the rear wheel without locking it up... AXIS is needed for rear brake! 

Looking to apex and up and down are some of the FUNDAMENTAL sights one sees while riding a bike... Where is the AXIS for each of these!!?  Please enable stuff instead of dummying down physics to compensate for lack of control and orientation because of lack of axis and controller support.

These features aren't rocket science.  They've been dismissed or overlooked and need to be instated as a fundemental and integral part of your game engine...  NEVER to be excluded again.

I'm sounding and looking like Ted Kazinski with my rant here but, please open this series up to the dynamic bike and rider movements that are EVER present on, and with, the real motorcycle and rider.  These things have been, sadly, regrettably avoided or marginalized by the arcade brain of the head devos......

The view in the beginning of one of your video clips of Stoner's cockpit... make that available, and let it look to apex while "simulating".  Maybe tracker enable game like GP Bikes? ...

Once again, thanks again for all the feedback, screenshots etc. I'm putting all of your comments together and will sit down with the dev team to discuss them. I'll get you some feedback asap.