Oct 31, 2009 -- 5:30PM, gmontalc wrote:

Now, I doubt highly that is the original Climax team working on this game, thus far I have seeing nothing reflected as previous Cimax releases, but much similar to Namco's MotoGP series.

 

who told  u that? as far as i know today Climax team is called BlackRock studios..and they have made game such us  "pure" quad game  and something else

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock_Studio

 

off-topic :can a Capcon WebMaster fix the format of the forum?once the page is upgrated i cannot read ends line of tread!

dont u think we r suffering enought 4 the game already?

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MotoGP 06 has the right motorcycle handling and physics at least, don't believe me, just play it yourself, and the game play is very good, by the time you'll reach "Champion" Level already the A.I. is very hard to beat, not even to mention "Legend" Level; The A.I. is pushing the race all the way up to the very last lap finish line unlike other games that at certain gap the A.I. will "give up" and let you ride by yourself like a dummy."- Unquote

 

 

Its funny how a person's skill level can mold their opinion towards handling physics... MotoGP06 by Climax was awful interms of handling physics and the AI in legend mode is a joke and way easy to beat...

That being said its easy to understand how allowing the general public to call the shots, so to speak, about handling physics can completely destroy the game... 

This isn't a "this Climax GP is better than that Climax GP. Its Clear to any oldschool rider from Gp1 or 2 how awful Gp3-07 are... But certain things tend to get buried and memories get blurred and distorted by evolution and easily forgotten...

I really can't stand Gp3 and on to 07, because the handling physics are absolut garbage and not only are they far from real but they also took away the fun that once resided in Gp1/2.

Interms of Climax Developers being a part of Gp09/10 is unclear?

Tom and Greg have no ties to Gp1 or 2 as far as I know? Maybe Gp3 which I do believe Greg did some work on but what type of work is unknown to me.. Besides if Greg and Tom only worked on Gp3 this still has no dictation on the out come in favor of it being more this way or that way as it seems as though Gp09/10 is being worked to be on its own! (as it should be)

Gmontalc's theory is to play the game as it should be played, but that is also an opinion... Sure you can play anyway you see fit. But if you want to be dominate on the Scoreboards there is very limited ways to be at the top.. Knowing this alone is the start of understanding how wrong the game can be made from its original brand. Not harder, just more sloppy. Not understanding this is playing the way you see fit and not taking advantage of all the games options such as scoreboards which limits your very knowledge of the design or how the design can be shattered. 

So roll on March!

To many chefs around the stew can spoil it!  Just give me the finished product and I'll either eat it up or spit it out.

Nov 1, 2009 -- 2:25PM, WALKEN wrote:

Its funny how a person's skill level can mold their opinion towards handling physics... MotoGP06 by Climax was awful interms of handling physics and the AI in legend mode is a joke and way easy to beat...

That's your opinion, I told you many times before, the way you're playing these games are totally different than mine. I do not have to repeat myself, don't I ?, don't tell me, just show me !, and we will compare your style of gaming against mine.

You always stand by "how awful is GP3", but you'd have never ever proved it, I have posted several videos game play whereas shows that is nothing wrong with the game(s), and yet you can't come up with the "awful" part. and still you're playing GP1 on PC version like this retro game were be the best of them all. First of the GP1 layout circuits track are the most wrong of the rest of the entire Climax series and the bike models are a total cartooned make up, not to mention the exaggerated powersliding,... etc

The GP2, GP3 URT and GP06 have basically the same game play, but had been updated for the better upon every released, GP3 URT and GP06 has an overall better visuals and bike/rider functionality than GP2 and GP1 combine whether PC or Console. Period.

Just take a look at this MotoGP 3 URT "mod" 2008 Casey Stoner post #109 (PC), it is refreshing to see that this game can be modded with new skins.

Interms of Climax Developers being a part of Gp09/10 is unclear?

It is not unclear, it has been confirmed by Monumental Games. Otherwise I would've not brought up the THQ/Climax games series to discussion at all.

.. Besides if Greg and Tom only worked on Gp3 this still has no dictation on the out come in favor of it being more this way or that way as it seems as though Gp09/10 is being worked to be on its own! (as it should be)

Agree, Is being worked to be on its own garbage, because they don't have a clue for what so far have been done.

.. Gmontalc's theory is to play the game as it should be played, but that is also an opinion... Sure you can play anyway you see fit. But if you want to be dominate on the Scoreboards there is very limited ways to be at the top.. Knowing this alone is the start of understanding how wrong the game can be made from its original brand. Not harder, just more sloppy. Not understanding this is playing the way you see fit and not taking advantage of all the games options such as scoreboards which limits your very knowledge of the design or how the design can be shattered.

... I agree, and still ...  don't hate the game if it's playable, but hate the crappie cheating players, the only way to get to the top position on the "Scoreboards" is to exploit the game. "Create a difficult game and others will invent the cheat".

Nov 1, 2009 -- 3:03PM, Gadgetgaz wrote:

and sure it is right, 09/10 should be worked and judged on its own merit its own engine and no tforced to be molded or based upon an old engine from old games like 06....

Again, ... then , wouldn't you paid for a (re-box) rebuild game of "MotoGP Tourist Trophy" ?, hard to say NO,.. eh?

 

 

I have never say the Climax series are the best of them all the rest of motorcycle games or compared Climax games with other games by trying to make believe this games is better than; You guys only can offer the negative complain about it, but yet failing to prove the "WHY it is crap", show it in a video and from there we all can see it, do it the same way I do it, all what I said and try to explain is on videos or pictures for all to understand my point, I've shown both ways, the "why" is good and the "why" is bad. I have to thank THQ / Climax for the development of these game Series who has brought me fun and my money worth 100 times fold, except for the awful MotoGP07. Monumental instead of going for the simple path to bring the Physics, Handling and Accuracy to be the main focus, the latest DEV team are looking towards into developing the BEST arcade game ever built.

Gmontalc,?

Can we please debate about something else? This is getting sooooo boring....

Seriously, you say give examples by way of video and I come up with a great idea of a blog Channel to narrow the gap of Communication and you put that down saying its worthless?

Then you post tons of videos that I can't view because of some of the formats you use that for some reason or another don't like Linux and lock the screen up forcing me to close the browes session, and I am no moron when it comes to Linux or Flash etc....  Every video format I've crossed paths with on the internet work except some of yours, Hmmm?

Then you make statements to WhoDa about not having a brain?

Besides that, your examples of physics through way of video are fruitless to the developers as your understanding of the physics are not complete as you are not tapping the physics out on the game because you choose to play it the way you see fit and that limits your understanding of the physics... While some people have a deeper understand that you consider cheating...

Reguardless of your opinion, there is a pecking order! Riders who have faster laps have more skill and that is fact...

With that being said maybe you should consider who your debating with before you make comments on physics you have no understanding of to begin with.. Its really not your fault to think you understand as you have your own understanding of the physics by the way you choose to play. But, the way you choose to play is not teaching you the limits of the game and that in itself puts you in the lesser of value of input when it comes to nit picking Physics! 

So basically I don't need to show you examples of me playing Gp3... Go on the scoreboards and see if my times that I reset a billion times are still there and see if your times are even close at all... I don't want to hear this Bull$hit about, I play like a cheater because you choose to play the game differently and not utilize  all the features and functions of the game...

The point that your missing is I don't fully disagree with what your saying.

What I have taken from your posts is that you play a certain way and feel the game outside of the way you play is not proper... Now that is an opinion... Even if you think your way is the way or its the highway!

But in thinking this way and limiting yourself to your way, limits your understanding of the physics. There for you can't understand what its like to pull an extremely fast lap and then realize the extent of the physics at hand! <

IMO, this whole thing is about you! Lets all focus on Gmontalc!

I'll tell you what, Come race me anytime on Ps3, MotoGP, SBK, Ferrari Challenge whatever. Then we will see who has the better understanding of physics..;.

Bring it to the track!

I'm tired of a battle of wits..... Zip your lip and lets race %^T*$!!!!