Who do you use? Every character has different advantages when it comes to their ultra. I almost want to say that MOST characters' ultras can be linked at the end of a combo. If not, it's a counter to projectiles or great anti-air. Perhaps I would see your point more clearly if given a more solid example of characters whose ultras are at a disadvantage.

Jun 28, 2009 -- 8:47PM, Exogen wrote:

I understand that things like super combos can be seen as balancing tools as far as evening things out tier wise, but I think that ultras in general were a bad idea to put in the game.

the reason I think ultras were bad is because they are an opportunity to come back substantially from would be defeat due to nothing more then loosing. in other words, because ultras can only be gained by receiving damage they reward the loser and are therefore not earned.

Did you even read the OP's post? lol Please don't go there...Anywhere...Just not that again... PLEASE

In all honesty this argument is mostly/only valid because of Ryu

Even a 5 year old can learn a shoryuken + Ultra. It's just to easy(fast) to pull off a lp shoryuken.
The only way Ryu should get you with a juggle + Ultra should be with his double air punch, a shoryuken FADC, or EX hurricane kick.

But the fact that he can ALSO get you with a lp shoryuken is absurd.

The percentage of him getting you with his Ultra is at least 75%, compared to others who are mostly around 50%

I know where this thread is coming from, it's coming from the fact that more than half of players use Ryu because of how simple it is to use him. He'll get you with an Ultra almost every time.

Jun 28, 2009 -- 8:44PM, Adrian wrote:

Who do you use? Every character has different advantages when it comes to their ultra. I almost want to say that MOST characters' ultras can be linked at the end of a combo. If not, it's a counter to projectiles or great anti-air. Perhaps I would see your point more clearly if given a more solid example of characters whose ultras are at a disadvantage.

I main Akuma. but i play with others and i was playing with Ryu and Ken and was seeing how easy it is to combo there supers together with a combo. and it takes a massive amount of damage on the opponent sometime i linked the to so easy that i was kinda up set because i didnt wana use it just then lol. My point is that i think that supers or ultras shouldn't be allowed to be linked together.

Jun 28, 2009 -- 11:14PM, YFB47 wrote:

Jun 28, 2009 -- 8:44PM, Adrian wrote:

Who do you use? Every character has different advantages when it comes to their ultra. I almost want to say that MOST characters' ultras can be linked at the end of a combo. If not, it's a counter to projectiles or great anti-air. Perhaps I would see your point more clearly if given a more solid example of characters whose ultras are at a disadvantage.

I main Akuma. but i play with others and i was playing with Ryu and Ken and was seeing how easy it is to combo there supers together with a combo. and it takes a massive amount of damage on the opponent sometime i linked the to so easy that i was kinda up set because i didnt wana use it just then lol. My point is that i think that supers or ultras shouldn't be allowed to be linked together.

There's a line which SFIV passed when it comes to how much is too much

The juggling, or rather, the excissiveness and how easy it is to link Ultras from that is the only thing which really pisses me 'bout the game.

Mainly with Ryu, I'm actually ok with Balrog and even Sagat believe it or not.