I thinks it's alright. They make the game more interesting.

When I first picked up SFIV (the day it released), it was a big party at my place. Controller swapping, bud smoking, etc. Now, I haven't played ALL the SF games, notably the Alpha games, EX games, SFIII, and so forth, but I had played Marvel vs Capcom, so I knew about the Super Combos that do 50 hits, yada yada. So SFIV comes along, I'm hip to the Super, but the Ultra was something new, I didn't really know what to expect, or how you built it up. So I'm waxing the floor with my uncle, I'm Ken (no doubt), and he's Sagat. I'm about two punches and a kick away from victory, then BOOM! This a-hole bursts into an Ultra, bewildering my visual senses, and simultaneously, annihilating my poor poor Ken. Although I think it's pretty cool you have two special guages, getting your ass kicked shouldn't allow you to even out our vitality levels by giving the Ultra more power than the Super. Then again, I retract that statement, Ultra's have saved a hide more than its fair share...

Jul 3, 2009 -- 11:01AM, Adrian wrote:

I personally don't use supers, because I save it for FADCs when I whiff wake up shoryus, and Ex moves. I just didn't want the wrong message to be sent, i.e. damage scaling makes super to ultra combos pointless.

But yea, if you're sure that the scaling are done by numbers of hit, and supers are scaled multiple times pending on how many hits it include, and not only scaled once, because it is counted as one move, you should email these people, and tell them that they got it wrong.

www.eventhubs.com/guides/2009/may/09/how...

hmmm i guess that it scales as an Ultra hitting for 2 hits in combo, and a super would be a 3rd which means the super is still hitting for 80%. so i guess is not as bad as i thought. however. usually you do several moves into the super and then can connect that into an ultra.

which i guess that would be the reason why it seems like its scaled so much from what i've seen. because if you do  for intance:

as ken:

j.mk(crossup)

jab jab

c.fp

jab dp cancel into super

land into ultra

so with that you're hitting

6 hits then connecting into ultra.

which means that the ultra is only hitting for 40% - 30% of its potential damage.

Garrett in your example you're going into an Ultra that doesn't hit correctly when you combo it as well (Ken doesn't get the full damage if the Ultra hits someone in the air).

Jul 5, 2009 -- 7:45PM, TongariDan (o'-')o wrote:

Garrett in your example you're going into an Ultra that doesn't hit correctly when you combo it as well (Ken doesn't get the full damage if the Ultra hits someone in the air).

i realize that, but you still should note that the damage is still being reduced.

however. I will say this. the best Ultra / Super combo in this game has to be Dhalsim's.

that thing annihilates anyones HP because he can catch people on jump ins and once the ultra connects launch out the super no problem....just brutal.

at any rate i was just showing that only in rare circumstances does a super -> ultra and visa versa work. and like i said before IMO its usually better to save and use for EX moves and FADCs into Ultra or otherwise.