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Supers and Ultra's combos
5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 9:42AM #31
CL3RIC
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Jun 29, 2009 -- 8:44AM, βгǺñĎǿИ wrote:


Ya know, its getting a little ridiculous saying Ryu's lp shrk. to ultra is EASY..yes its easy to do, but not easy to actually hit someone with...




This^^^


Some charecters land a lot faster making this quit difficult to land and risky.


Jun 29, 2009 -- 7:45AM, Roboydo wrote:


Jun 29, 2009 -- 5:07AM, Graphf wrote:


wow you really are that dense. 


THATS THE REASON I SAID GO PLAY TEKKEN!!!


You are a ****ing moron. really.





Oh look, theres a new prick trolling the forums...




Just what I was thinking ;)

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5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 11:50AM #32
PG > C
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I play Ryu very rarely just to see if I can pull of a lp srk -> Ultra every now and then, and almost 90% of the time get them. Most of the time though I don't even need to do that or srk -> FADC -> Ultra, as I've always got a super ready and just jab -> Super or any other quick punch or kick and Super.


It's only hard to pull off the srk -> ultra if you're not expecting to actually hit, which almost all the time you should if you've been timing it right, especially when they're jumping in at you. The window oppurtunity of connecting is big enough for you to react upon it hitting or not to connect, especially if you've got a Super.


Rufus is actually pretty easy too, I never actually choose him when I play, only when I get him on random select. I've never practiced with him either but yesterday I was able to pull off the jumpin HK -> Ultra. It's easy, especially compared to Bison's jump 2x Mp -> Ultra since I don't have to charge and Rufus' jumping HK seems to beat out more attacks in the air than Bison's MP. I even pulled off the standing HK -> Ultra with ease. Haven't attempted the knife strike into Ultra though, or the spinning tornado into Ultra, or any other setup.


 


I haven't liked Ultras from the start, I always thought the amount of damage done should be reversed with Supers. In most cases Supers are a whole lot weaker than Ultras.

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5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 11:56AM #33
DDHurricane
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Jun 28, 2009 -- 11:50PM, Adrian wrote:


Ryu's ultra is easy considering that you can trade - ultra, and lp shoryu jump-ins - ultra, but rufus is pretty much the same no? And with sagat's kick juggle ultra (I think does more damage than ryu's shoryu ultra), all I am saying is that ryu is not the only one. Gief and ultra out of a blocked green glove (correct me if I am wrong). Abel can combo into ultra, ken can combo in ultra, gouken can, chunli can, balgog can (though doesnt do nearly enough damage), viper can, cammy can, sakura can, seth can... if most character can juggle ultras, then it really isn't unfair is it? I main Akuma as well, and he has a whole list of guaranteed ultras in countering others moves, not to mention tricks to set up ultra (though not fool proof, but also, people can avoid jump- ins if they dont want to fall victim to ryu's ultra, or at least resort to safe jump-ins). I have landed akuma's ultra over 1000s of times, with at least 800 ultra finishes. What I am trying to say is that I can't see how it is unfair. Sure it might be easier for someone new to pick up ryu's lp shoryu ultra, but this game is way deeper than about landing ultras (lol I remember beating a lower gp player with just throws), and at a higher level, people who use other characters can and will know how to juggle ultras with their characters as well, or at least know how to set it up, so it's a level playing field.


 


Edit: I was typing my post when you guys posted the last two =). You can punish missed set ups, yes, the same applies to ryu's miss shoryu, yes?




I wana know how cammy can juggle into ultra and if you know than explain cuz i dont think ive seen it.

5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 11:59AM #34
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Jun 29, 2009 -- 11:56AM, DDHurricane wrote:


I wana know how cammy can juggle into ultra and if you know than explain cuz i dont think ive seen it.




Cannon spike -> FABD (focus attack back dash) -> Ultra.


or


Cannon spike -> FADC -> Ultra, but you'll get fewer hits and less damage.


 


The first is harder to pull off though.

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5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 12:07PM #35
lucky_azz
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talkin about ultras... does sagat say ryu when he does his ultra when the opponent is ryu?... i was jus wonderin

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5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 12:08PM #36
lucky_azz
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and does zangief say ryu when he gets hit? or why you?.... hahahaha

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5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 1:58PM #37
YFB47
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Jun 29, 2009 -- 8:44AM, βгǺñĎǿИ wrote:


Ya know, its getting a little ridiculous saying Ryu's lp shrk. to ultra is EASY..yes its easy to do, but not easy to actually hit someone with, if they are decent to good at the game. Most know NOT to jump when Ryu has an ultra ready to use..MOST do not jump right at you for you to perform the Ultra...the vast majority of the time, I have to MAKE the person jump or, I have to play mind games and get them to make a mistake..Its not like I can just do it at will, unless the person keeps making mistakes and KEEPS JUMPING. Yes its EASY TO PERFORM, but nowhere near easy to do it and it hits....also, if Ryu couldn't do that, when else could I hit my Ultra...grounded is 99% of the time a NO NO...can't always FADC since most people know what I am about to do since they have played thousands of Ryu's...so when else would be a good time. Also for ryu to be effective 9 times out of 10, I have to be close. Yes, I can throw hadokens from across the screens, but against again, decent to good players, they can easily jump over, block, focus them...so I have to get close to be lethal.


I feel the ultra's and supers are just fine, with every character you have to advantages and disadvantages of your moves. You just need to know when to use them properly.




Naw dude your wrong you dont have to jump into it we all know that but you can still combo the LP SRK and do thats way to easy. you should have to use a EX cancel into it. yes it is like super hard to get someone on the ground with it but i rather see a combo with the high SRK then EX cancel then Ultra or super. then its easy as hell to get people with the super with him like trying to do the SRK and if you just press it twice on accident you with hit him with the combo the SRK and then Super.

5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 2:01PM #38
YFB47
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Jun 29, 2009 -- 6:02AM, Adrian wrote:


Jun 29, 2009 -- 4:51AM, Graphf wrote:


See bold statement above -  what?  Are you kidding me? You're command of the english language and ability to communicate is depressingly bad.


The next part about srks and sagats HK is just you're scrubby opinion. leave well enough alone.




lol... "your" not "you're"...speaking of command of the English language...


Though I do believe that the game is balanced enough that Ryu's and Sagat's juggling abilities shouldn't cause too much of an issue. Scarecrow is right, you should watch your attitude. We welcome comments and opinions, not flames or personal attacks. Express yourself, by all means, but at the same time, respect others. To initiate attacks is just an open invitation to the rest of the forum to go after you, despite the validity of your opinions. Keep that in mind, and smile.




Yeah cuz we will flame broil your as on here. We like it to be friendly and have great opinions that matter. we dont have time for you to come on here and try to start things up.

5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 5:05PM #39
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WOW this troll Is SRK friendly!!!!!!!!!! All this coming from an '09 Member over at SRK!


Wait! I have the solution! I had to steal this from Thamanator...



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5 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 5:25PM #40
curbs
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Jun 29, 2009 -- 5:05PM, Dr. Shadow wrote:


WOW this troll Is SRK friendly!!!!!!!!!! All this coming from an '09 Member over at SRK!


Wait! I have the solution! I had to steal this from Thamanator...






The minute you acknowledge the problem, you effectively become a troll, just like I have with this post. The best way to deal with the problem is to completely ignore it. I believe there's a button for that, too.

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