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5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 9:00PM #61
TwiGGy
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Wow, great comeback Sabre.


 


Btw, just like to say i was seriously impressed with your Sakura at EVO. You rocked it.


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5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 9:44PM #62
SaBrE
Posts: 341

appreciate that. the gootecks win was most important for me cuz gootecks was 2-0 vs me in tourneys in sf4. I had a problem with the balrog matchup for a long time, but i learned some new things in the matchup that made things really different.  unfortunately that first round was a slopfest. i dunno what that round was. i guess i had to get the jitters out

5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 10:26PM #63
Scarecrow
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Jul 22, 2009 -- 8:42PM, SaBrE wrote:


scarecrow: are you really serious?  theres no way i could beat you?  what city/state you live in? what tourneys you go to? or are you just some random online lag warrior that never leaves the house to play and thinks the broken leaderboards are a true representation of skill?


if you play in cali, or close to it, you name the next big event coming up, ill show up, and we can play for however much, first to 5, 10, whatever.  I guarantee you i will get more than just 1 win on you.  I go toe to toe, with valle, EDMA and other killers, OFFLINE.  how about you killer?  they all respect my game, over the years, as well as i respect them for being amazing players. 


 


sakura having no options and no range? are you high?  players are scared of c.forward cuz its range is incredible, is fast, has high priority, and leads to a free knockdown.  it's one of the best far pokes in the game.  her s.rh, while not as fast as it used to be in alpha2/3 and cvs2, is still a good poke and has massive range, once again.  her focus also has incredible range.  no range, are you kidding me?


 


yes, she is most effective in close.  but its also matchup dependant. certain characters, she cannot do ex HK shenanigans. so yeah, if you use a specific character, then yeah, i may not be able to use the shenanigans.  but thats fine, cuz as long as i get the ex hk, i get good damage, high stun, and force a knockdown and keep you pressured.


lol and as for jibbo. i know the dude.  he used to main sakura before going to gen.  so he knows the character really well. i never played a good gen, ever,  and i was not prepared for it.  he played the character wonderfully, but he also didnt rape.  it was still a close game.  if i had known the ex wall dive was invincible, i wouldnt have been going for shenanigans, but i didnt adapt to it fast enough.  whether i knew the character or not, jibbo outplayed me in the end, and i credit it.  i dont make excuses like "he used gimmixks" or "i never play that character, if i knew the matchup, you woulda lost."  i say whatever to alll that cop out excuse crap and just give the player props for winning.


perhaps, valle and gootecks dont play vs a good sakura, except when they play me.  but they have played vs MY sakura in the past, they knew what they were getting into. and i came with a couple new tricks that no one knew about.  i got about a dozen different ways to set things up.  and while they play in arcade, they play console a lot.  i have them on my friends list, they are online A LOT.  so thats a silly assumption that they dont play console


its real easy to be sitting behind the monitor playing arm chair warrior and making silly comments and claim this and that.  but if you dont go out there and make things happen, then your opinion is irrelevant to me.  if you come out, and we somehow play, and you beat me, i will give props, no questions asked.  I would look forward to it.  and i would expect the same respect if i beat you.  but right now, all you are doing is making silly assumptions and speculations.




I dare you point me to where I said that I could beat you


You're at a level beyond most of, there's no questioning that


 


The question here is whether she's good or not. Few use Sakura like you do, you even said no one saw your shenanigans 'till this Evo. I'd like to see how you'll do from here on out since that's been exposed.


 


The irony in your "OMG you're onine player" is that you then go had open your mouth 'bout how you play with Gootecks and Valle online


Furthermore, no I do not live in California and since you'd beat me with any character regardless of it's Sakura or not there's no point in even bothering hooking up sometime.


Go ahead and use your Sakura, it's actually good seeing her do good, she's such an awesome character! <3

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5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 11:09PM #64
kenjiharima
Posts: 4113

We all know the reason why Ryu lost! LOL!!! Just kidding. LaughingTongue out


 


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5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 11:24PM #65
Cluschis
Posts: 1998

This argument is somewhat pointless, cause most ppl are still gone pick shotos at the end of the day. Therefore, the tier list prevails when these tourneys come around. But on the other hand, that could be an advantage for sakura players.

5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 11:28PM #66
Scarecrow
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Jul 22, 2009 -- 11:09PM, kenjiharima wrote:


We all know the reason why Ryu lost! LOL!!! Just kidding.

 





Hehe, ah! So that's where Ryu's bulge came from when the game's production started? :D

If you're a ninja, do you have secret passages in your house and stuff?-Sakura
5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 11:34PM #67
kenjiharima
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Jul 22, 2009 -- 11:28PM, Scarecrow wrote:

Jul 22, 2009 -- 11:09PM, kenjiharima wrote:


We all know the reason why Ryu lost! LOL!!! Just kidding.

 





Hehe, ah! So that's where Ryu's bulge came from when the game's production started? :D






And it still is buldging! XD

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5 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2009 - 11:52PM #68
SaBrE
Posts: 341

uh, i say i play them offline. not online.  just because i have these guys on my friends list does not mean i play them online at sf4.  they are personal friends of mine. i base performances off of offline matches only. online is too trash for sf4 to make judgement calls.


 


well you said:  "Just try and EX shunpu me, I'll see block you and break your game right there(yes yes you link into it but I'll see THAT coming a mile away too, it's just naive and will not work)"


 


then you said:


 


"I'm sorry Tongari, but there's no way in hell Sakura will ever beat me more than once or twice.


 It might happen when someone who uses her to the highest level finally challenges me. But even then once I figure her ways it's easy as pie."


 


i dunno, that sounds like you are saying you wouldnt lose to me, or any sakura.  Maybe i'm getting senile at my old age, but i use sakura, and you say theres no way sakura can beat you more than once or twice.  you didnt say "except for good sakuras" or anything like that.  you just said sakura, PERIOD.  You must be on some godlike level if you can claim this.  i can take matches on other top players(they are definitely better than me).  but if i couldnt take more than a game off you, you must be on another level, and maybe you shoulda been #1st place at EVO, right?


 


im not arguing the fact that sakura is ranked low.  shes definitely not top tier, she has matchup issues. but 90% of her matches are even at 5-5 or she loses 6-4, which is a 1 win difference and its still anyones game.  Basically she can win any matchup.  which basically says, shes just a character specialist.  shes reliant on the player to know the matchups intimately, and just be overall good at the game.  she only has a couple 7-3 matchups not in her favor where she has to work really hard.  the fact of the matter is, she may be low according to some tier lists, but outside the top 5, the difference in points is so small between the rest of the cast that its almost moot point.

5 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2009 - 7:57AM #69
Thamanator
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"if i had known the ex wall dive was invincible, i wouldnt have been going for shenanigans, but i didnt adapt to it fast enough.  whether i knew the character or not, jibbo outplayed me in the end, and i credit it.  i dont make excuses like "he used gimmixks" or "i never play that character, if i knew the matchup, you woulda lost."  i say whatever to alll that cop out excuse crap and just give the player props for winning." -Sabre


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5 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2009 - 8:39AM #70
Kongoshinned
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I wish this thread would fit in my sig.  It went from no Sakura could beat me, and even if she did I'd figure her out and crush her, to crying that he isn't on the same skill level as his challengers so it isn't fair...  


He can only beat Sakuras that are as bad as him...

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