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New Evenhubs Tier List (6.10.09)
2 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2009 - 8:07PM #21
catalyst_nc
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Oct 9, 2009 -- 7:09PM, Scarecrow wrote:

I think it's easier to GROUP characters into groups than to say this one's better than this one


I just think people dislike when they try to say this character is better than this one






Right, hard to say X is better than Y, everyone has their advantages and disadvantages.

It's a good thing to remember that Iyo won the first national tournament in Japan with Dhalsim. Just because a character is low tier, it doesn't really mean much.

Dhalsim is a character with extremely good defense and keep away abilities. If he fits your style of play, it doesn't really matter what his tier ranking is, you can do some real damage with him if you put in the time.

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2 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2009 - 8:40PM #22
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I'm still of an opinion that Fei Long is pretty good.  He's got some annoying problems, but it's all about using him correctly.  But I could be of that opinion since my opinion is that the best SF player I've played on Unity is BJ and her Fei-Long (beat me out first Unity tourney, barely beat her out 2nd tourney).


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2 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2009 - 10:15AM #23
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Fei Long may very well, be very good in this game. He has "old Vega/Fei" speed! My thing is I haven't used him very much, so I was mainly using Super Turbo starts and adding in strings as I learn them. His hit-boxes SEEM TO have for the most part been shrunk more than most other characters. This may be just me.


I think that the console characters do have the most room to go higher on the Tier chart. Definitely part of the problem with SFIV is that so many people are using the same characters right now, that it is taking a lot longer to get divergent character usages and tricks reflected in the Tiers.

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2 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2009 - 11:22PM #24
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  Fei Long's big problem, one which he doesn't have in HD Remix, is his Chicken Wing (Flying Kick) can be blocked low. With a guy who has as few moves as he does, and considering how important his Chicken Wing is, being able to block it low was a real bad idea on the designer's part.


  I'm not saying Fei Long can't be very good, any character in the game can hold their own, but I think this one aspect is going to limit his ability to be a top character.


  If they adjusted that though...

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1 month ago  ::  Oct 12, 2009 - 3:17PM #25
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Oct 8, 2009 -- 7:27AM, Thamanator wrote:


...all that can be called into question is the parameters by which the data is compiled. And last I checked, it is always the same way.




This point sums up everything there is to say about t.charts. 


 


I'd be interested to see a pro tier chart.
1 month ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 4:12PM #26
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Oct 9, 2009 -- 5:13PM, Kongoshinned wrote:


This tier chart is based on shenanigans.


Japanese don't use console characters cause they don't play tournaments on consoles.


Therefore, this is doo doo.  Akuma does not go 4/6 with Sagat.  Have you seen what Japanese Akumas do to Sagat with that standing roundhouse into jab into st.RH again over and over again?


 


srsly.  This is bulldonkey.


 


One Example





If arcades get SSFIV, I hope the existing console characters also get added so we can see far more accurate tier charts. Are there any new(ish) Japanese Arcade official tier listings anywhere on the internet(/srk)? I know Mago has a "personal" tier list form a couple of months back, but is there anything more factual? I realise I come off as a tier whore, but I definetly amn't...

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1 month ago  ::  Oct 14, 2009 - 10:32AM #27
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Well Chris, (AKA the Tier Whore)Wink


I am pretty sure that it will be MUCH harder to find arcade character only Tier Charts from now on, as many of the average to big tournaments now use consoles, so that the console characters can be used.


I just had a thought , whatdo you do if you're running a tournament and someone hits the power but while data is being saved from the fight, and it ruins the data and the console characters vanish in a puff of smoke?Undecided

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1 month ago  ::  Oct 14, 2009 - 8:47PM #28
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The last Arcadia tier list was released around June I believe. It also pretty much reflected Mago's sentiments.

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1 month ago  ::  Oct 15, 2009 - 5:50PM #29
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For the most part I agree with the least except.. I do beleive akuma should be higher than blanka but thats just my Input on it. Something just dont seem right about that placement. A good akuma is hard to deal with.
1 month ago  ::  Oct 15, 2009 - 6:07PM #30
TongariDan (o'-')o
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Oct 14, 2009 -- 10:32AM, Thamanator wrote:


Well Chris, (AKA the Tier Whore)

I am pretty sure that it will be MUCH harder to find arcade character only Tier Charts from now on, as many of the average to big tournaments now use consoles, so that the console characters can be used.




In America, that's true.  But in Japan/Korea arcade is still tournament standard as far as I know.


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