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Whose failure is it if you lose? -.-
5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 7:44AM #1
Christian
Posts: 47

Why do ppl always tend to see the failure for there loss in the other player once the got owned rly hard?


I thought I had left this players behind when I entered G1....


Today I faced "Mr. 43 of the Class Ranking" (much higher ranking then me) who was playing Dhalsim. After losing the first round I totaly destroyed him just by doing some Spiral Arrows to close in and beating him to pulp once I got there. Poor slow Dhalsim is not the best on close range...    well, and most players in G1 are just not used to Cammys rushdown.


Fortunatly he fell for my mindgame every time on wakeup.


Instantly after the match a get that well known "nice spaming!" message.


I don´t claim to be a rly good player. At least it is enough to make some progress in G1. But every time I rly own someone with much more GP I get those messages like "spaming noob", "learn to play right", "works only online", "Cannon Strike is Imba", "Spiral Arrow is Imba", "Cammy is lame scrub character", etc.


I don´t spam a lot, but even if I would: If you claim to be a top player and can´t handle some scrub player spamming the same move all the time, who´s actually the scrub? It´s annoying at some point.


Why don´t ppl ask to themselfes: "I lost to a 16000GP scrub. What went wrong?" instead of telling to themselfes "I lost to a 16000GP scrub. But he is just a spammer noob who is playing a scrub character. So lets sent him a message how scrub he is"^^     ....I just don´t get it.


You won´t believe how many Sagat players allready told me that Cammy is a Imba Scrub Character :D     Ridiculous!!!!

5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 9:05AM #2
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Thats the same argument I have with a lot of players. Your right on OP. They expect to play with style for some reason. Your playing to win if your an online ranking mode so you do what you gotta do to win. Like I had an argument with a Sagat user the other day. I hit him with 4 consecutive Heavy Kicks with Bison, and after the match he sent me hatemail about the way I played which i'm not gonna repeat over here lol.


I said to him, doesn't it make you a bad player if you can't stop a HK.. 4 times at that? I mean not only is their a block button but theirs focusing for God sakes.

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5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 9:54AM #3
KungFuSamurai
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Playing as Honda I get crossed up by Ken and Ryu players all the time. I try not to spam when I play, but when I get the jumping mk over and over I start to spam the sumo splash. I receive hate mail 7 out of 10 times, but it's like you're spamming me with a normal, I'm just spamming you right back with a special. (most of this occurred when I was in G2, but it still happens occasionally in G1). Frustrating...

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5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 10:14AM #4
Slappy
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I play zangief, nuff said.


Man I can go a whole match without ever using lariat and still somehow get called a lariat masher.

5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 10:19AM #5
s0calflip
Posts: 225

WHOA!!! a Gief and a Honda player below me...i would like to play either of you sometime, i'm on PS3.


Ok back to the original thread.  I usually blame myself.  I usually make dumb decisions and blame myself.  There are a few cases where they just constantly throw me or even spam fireballs, but thats all part of the game.  Mostly i blame myself.

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5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 11:30AM #6
Liza
Posts: 51

I had problems with this, well this is my first street fighter game and I made some really cool friends but i also lost some becuse of my play style, long story really short, I wondering if i cheated so here is one of the reply's someone gave me  to read...copy and past here go's


 


This is a bit of a lengthy article, but it really explains why people call things "cheap" and why you should ignore it.

David Sirlin's Playing to Win

The key point: "A scrub is a player who is handicapped by self-imposed rules that the game knows nothing about (ie cheap tactics). A scrub does not play to win." Mr Suplex

5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 11:45AM #7
s0calflip
Posts: 225

Oct 28, 2009 -- 11:30AM, Liza wrote:


I had problems with this, well this is my first street fighter game and I made some really cool friends but i also lost some becuse of my play style, long story really short, I wondering if i cheated so here is one of the reply's someone gave me  to read...copy and past here go's


 


This is a bit of a lengthy article, but it really explains why people call things "cheap" and why you should ignore it.

David Sirlin's Playing to Win

The key point: "A scrub is a player who is handicapped by self-imposed rules that the game knows nothing about (ie cheap tactics). A scrub does not play to win." Mr Suplex




Hey, so ididn't read it all, but everyone plays his/her own way.  yeah there are people who constantly throw, but hey its all part of the game now.  Its not like you can't counter it like the past SF where you couldnt counter the throw.  True, it does get frustrating sometimes, but hey its just all part of the game now.  I say keep ur head up and keep playing...


I dont agree with all the throwing sometimes, but it some part of the game that I need to work on and keep my guard up on.  Its just how you play and what you think is right.  For example, me and LUCKY play with out throwing usually.  We do throw to counter certain things, but we think of it just as a learning experience.

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5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 12:01PM #8
Liza
Posts: 51

ok i understand, i will try to remember not throw you and lucky, see somtimes i know when its comming so i counter throws like 7 out of ten maybe 6, i try to use everything rose has i even use her reflect alot...

5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 1:05PM #9
KungFuSamurai
Posts: 294

Oct 28, 2009 -- 10:19AM, s0calflip wrote:


WHOA!!! a Gief and a Honda player below me...i would like to play either of you sometime, i'm on PS3.


Ok back to the original thread.  I usually blame myself.  I usually make dumb decisions and blame myself.  There are a few cases where they just constantly throw me or even spam fireballs, but thats all part of the game.  Mostly i blame myself.




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5 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 1:10PM #10
lucky_azz
Posts: 700

Oct 28, 2009 -- 12:01PM, Liza wrote:


ok i understand, i will try to remember not throw you and lucky, see somtimes i know when its comming so i counter throws like 7 out of ten maybe 6, i try to use everything rose has i even use her reflect alot...





you dont have to worry about not throwing... actually it help me counter... so throw on!!! or throw down? =T


 


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