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Most honest SSF2HDR review I've read yet
12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 10:48AM #1
Super
Posts: 2

Sup guys/gals?


I've ready a lot of reviews for the game, and while I liked most they all seemed, I dunno, rushed.  This is the most honest one I've read yet, or at least the one that I agree with most.  I've never posted here, but I just wanted to know if y'all agree with the sentiment in this one.


I for one agree that the balancing is way, way off and sometimes really frustrated me.  I dont know why they made it that way, but matches are over before they begin!!  Anyhoo, here is the review and I hope you like it as much as I did.


http://popzara.com/pages/853

12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 11:07AM #2
tzz
Posts: 52

a) Spam.


b) Dumb poster. You are probably the reviewer, so that explains it.


c) Laughable review. Some quotes:


Counteracting  Zangief's aggressively powerful Spinning Pile Driver by lessening its damage  seems appropriate on the surface, but strengthening less powerful characters is  a bit much.  This effort to rebalance previously unbalanced characters has  only resulted in newly unbalanced characters.  That Cammy should be as or  more powerful than T. Hawk is laughable and seems to miss the essence of what  Street Fighter truly is.  You could rebalance a game of chess to better  appeal to the masses, but that would only leave you with checkers...



Summary: Balance is bad, I like that they nerfed the SPD (which they didn't).


Another effect of this tampering comes with the absurd hit/damage ratios,  which have never been set higher and threaten to ruin any long-term appeal the  game may have.  Nearly every move seems to shave massive health from your  life bar, with single throws and holds (Blanka's bite, Dhalsim's noogie) taking  off one-fourth to one-half instantly.



Summary: I have no idea of the damage ratios the original game had and I'm complaining about SFHD damage ratios as if they were higher.


Smaller, faster characters seem to  have gained considerable advantages over their larger counterparts, and with so  many smaller jabs and kicks effectively cancelling each other out, I've never  seen quicker matches or more Double KOs in my nearly twenty years of playing the  game.  Any noble attempts to broaden the game's appeal past its rabid  fanbase is negated by this frustrating addition, and I suspect all but the most  dedicated players will throw their arms (and controllers) up in disappointment.



Summary: I say that I've played this game for nearly 20 years, but it's obvious that I haven't. Not only because of my ignorance of the game, but because the game is not even 15 years old.

12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 11:36AM #3
RuffNite
Posts: 296

Agreeing with something makes it honest?

12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 11:36AM #4
Crack
Posts: 151

tzz is dead on.  The reviewer has aboslutely no clue about SFII. 


 


I'd guess they went online expecting to win because they could beat the computer on the SNES, and got a little pouty when they realized how bad they really were.

12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 12:02PM #5
curbs
Posts: 1324

Dec 13, 2008 -- 11:07AM, tzz wrote:

a) Spam.


b) Dumb poster. You are probably the reviewer, so that explains it.


c) Laughable review. Some quotes:


Counteracting  Zangief's aggressively powerful Spinning Pile Driver by lessening its damage  seems appropriate on the surface, but strengthening less powerful characters is  a bit much.  This effort to rebalance previously unbalanced characters has  only resulted in newly unbalanced characters.  That Cammy should be as or  more powerful than T. Hawk is laughable and seems to miss the essence of what  Street Fighter truly is.  You could rebalance a game of chess to better  appeal to the masses, but that would only leave you with checkers...



Summary: Balance is bad, I like that they nerfed the SPD (which they didn't).


Another effect of this tampering comes with the absurd hit/damage ratios,  which have never been set higher and threaten to ruin any long-term appeal the  game may have.  Nearly every move seems to shave massive health from your  life bar, with single throws and holds (Blanka's bite, Dhalsim's noogie) taking  off one-fourth to one-half instantly.



Summary: I have no idea of the damage ratios the original game had and I'm complaining about SFHD damage ratios as if they were higher.


Smaller, faster characters seem to  have gained considerable advantages over their larger counterparts, and with so  many smaller jabs and kicks effectively cancelling each other out, I've never  seen quicker matches or more Double KOs in my nearly twenty years of playing the  game.  Any noble attempts to broaden the game's appeal past its rabid  fanbase is negated by this frustrating addition, and I suspect all but the most  dedicated players will throw their arms (and controllers) up in disappointment.



Summary: I say that I've played this game for nearly 20 years, but it's obvious that I haven't. Not only because of my ignorance of the game, but because the game is not even 15 years old.


1. SPD was not nerfed. It's the same as it was in ST. This guy has probably never heard of counter hits.

2. What the hell, Cammy and T.Hawk are both bottom tier in ssf2t. Why he's comparing them I have no idea. Diddums, this guy probably wants realism. Out with the trash...

3. Damage ratios are the same as ST, and were higher in original SF2. Also in that game you could keep your opponent in a dizzy loop (broken).

4. Street Fighter 2 will only be 20 years old in 2011, so regardless of whether he's talking about the very original or ST, he's talking out his ass.

Sorry I quoted you. I couldn't be bothered following the link so i just went off what you had quoted.

It's probably not the PO's fault, he's probably just new to the game and this is the first review he stumbled upon, influencing him hugely.

Way to blow it, if you know this little about the game you probably should just quit your job as a reviewer, having clearly made no effort to find out about it. I think it's safe to say that this reviewer has been demoted to the rank of 'IGN', one to ask for Mario in SFIV.

12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 12:30PM #6
d3v
Posts: 3398

Dec 13, 2008 -- 10:48AM, Super wrote:


I for one agree that the balancing is way, way off and sometimes really frustrated me.  I dont know why they made it that way, but matches are over before they begin!!  Anyhoo, here is the review and I hope you like it as much as I did.




So you mean to say all the tournament players and Evo vets who helped make the games balance what it is are wrong?

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12 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2008 - 6:15PM #7
Furious Keys
Posts: 298

made me laugh, Tzz summed it up pretty well

12 months ago  ::  Dec 14, 2008 - 4:50PM #8
Malisyn
Posts: 6

Dec 13, 2008 -- 11:07AM, tzz wrote:


Another effect of this tampering comes with the absurd hit/damage ratios,  which have never been set higher and threaten to ruin any long-term appeal the  game may have.  Nearly every move seems to shave massive health from your  life bar, with single throws and holds (Blanka's bite, Dhalsim's noogie) taking  off one-fourth to one-half instantly.



 


One-fourth to one-half instantly?? That statement alone reeks of amateurish experience. Is he just sitting there letting himself get bludgeoned without trying to get out of it? Sorry, but I gotta call foul on this supposed messiah of video game reviewers. Please stick to Dead or Alive and leave the real fighting games to the pros. K?

12 months ago  ::  Dec 15, 2008 - 3:29AM #9
M
Posts: 516

I think its a good review. I read that stirlin said he wasnt biased when he was balancing the character and that the other street fighter players who contributed wernt biased. But I find this very hard to believe, sirlin said his character of choice was honda, and look at all the improvments honda has, I didnt even realise that certain honda jumping moves are imprevious to anti air attacks...things like this and block safes are just rediculas


I like the game, but theres just too many things wrong with it.

12 months ago  ::  Dec 15, 2008 - 4:43AM #10
Cowdisease
Posts: 166

Dec 15, 2008 -- 3:29AM, M wrote:


I think its a good review. I read that stirlin said he wasnt biased when he was balancing the character and that the other street fighter players who contributed wernt biased. But I find this very hard to believe, sirlin said his character of choice was honda, and look at all the improvments honda has, I didnt even realise that certain honda jumping moves are imprevious to anti air attacks...things like this and block safes are just rediculas


I like the game, but theres just too many things wrong with it.



Alright, M.  I'm going to challenge you.  Here is a webpage with links to all the changes for Remixed mode.  I want you to read through them and then write which changes you truly feel are not good and why.  I want to see if you can really back up your claim that there are "too many things wrong with it."

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